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Freeza's Empire: Not that impressive?
Topic Started: Jun 2 2014, 01:22 AM (1,147 Views)
SSJ Jun 2 2014, 01:22 AM Post #1
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The planets he controls number in the several hundreds, I think. (Of course, this doesn’t include the ones he went and destroyed.)
Since time immemorial, the Saiyans have been a warrior race leading a violent and inhuman existence, making their fortunes by attacking many planets. Furthermore, Freeza and his forces were able to bring even the Saiyans under his control through sheer power. He’s the godfather of the racket. However, they were merely violent, and didn't have an especially company-like organization.


Is having several hundred planets really that impressive? A couple hundred solar systems are under his control, so what? That really is quite small, especially considering there are probably billions of planets in the North quadrant of the galaxy.
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+ Pelador Jun 2 2014, 01:41 AM Post #2
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 That's more than the Federation of Planets from Star Trek which numbered around 150 in Captain Picard's time. So I think it's damn impressive. Especially since he conquered them all. Heck it might even be more than the Federation, Klingon, Cardassian and Borg Empires combined.


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+ Clearin Jun 2 2014, 01:42 AM Post #3
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 I'd say having one planet under your control is impressive. Having several hundred is insane, especially since there's many that he also just destroyed. There's no indication as to how many planets are in the DBZ universe, especially nothing that hints it's in the billions.
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SSJ Jun 2 2014, 01:45 AM Post #4
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 At the same time, he hyped himself up to be the ruler of the galaxy. I agree Clearin that there is no indication of how large the universe is, but I made the topic with realism in mind. When I look at this from a realistic standpoint, a few hundred planets doesn't really make him a galactic ruler, at least in my opinion. While it's impressive that he has the power to conquer a planet, let alone hundreds, it really only would be a dent in the galaxy.
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Vertical Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM Post #5
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 Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
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SSJ Jun 2 2014, 01:49 AM Post #6
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Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
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EMIYA Jun 2 2014, 01:49 AM Post #7
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 Ignoring the fact that the DBZ area seems to have a smaller number of objects than the real world. A billion galaxies in our universe compared to apparently four in DBZ.

But another thing to note is influence as well. Freeza takes over a planet in a solar system..just one planet but that planet is incredibly important throughout that solar system and now while Freeza has only conquered one planet, he influences the entire solar system that its in. Now you conquer hundreds of planets and imagine with each planet you're influences dozens perhaps even hundreds of other planets.

And now you spread all of this across the galaxy and yes, it would appear that Freeza pretty much owned the galaxy at the time. He had that kind of influence over it.
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lazerbem Jun 2 2014, 01:54 AM Post #8
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 The problem is that a lot of planets are absolutely worthless. You mentioned how there were billions of planets, right? How many of them actually have anything worth while on them?

That's the thing, Freeza would only go for good planets. Besides, Freeza sells the planets, it's not like he owns them
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Vertical Jun 2 2014, 01:55 AM Post #9
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Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
Besides the map? There's only 4 galaxies :x
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SSJ Jun 2 2014, 02:01 AM Post #10
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Jun 2 2014, 01:55 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 01:49 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
Besides the map? There's only 4 galaxies :x
What's your take on this new BoG stuff surrounding the 12 universes? I don't consider it canon myself.
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EMIYA Jun 2 2014, 02:05 AM Post #11
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"I am the bone of my sword."

 I think the point of the universes, if I have to sense out of them...and BOG makes that hard.

But it might be kind of like a multiverse theory. DBZ takes place in one universe that has 4 galaxies to it. The Kaioshin's are the creator and Beerus is the destroyer.

Each universe has its own galaxies, creators and destroys to them and at some points they get together and discuss stuff and Beerus is a d*** and puts people in swords. But besides that, the universes are separate.
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Rogafufuken Jun 2 2014, 02:05 AM Post #12
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Jun 2 2014, 01:55 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
Besides the map? There's only 4 galaxies :x
Well if there are 12 universes, and lets say that there are 4 galaxies in each universe, like the 7th universe, that would mean that there are only 48 galaxy's in the Dragon Ball multi-verse.

Maybe the galaxies are really big? I doubt it though.
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Vertical Jun 2 2014, 02:16 AM Post #13
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Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
Besides the map? There's only 4 galaxies :x
What's your take on this new BoG stuff surrounding the 12 universes? I don't consider it canon myself.
I consider it as "canon" as any other post-original-manga-run production.

The concept/ideals were placed in Toriyama's lap and he did what he could with them... but at the end of the day, he still had to present:
  • SSJ God
  • God of Destruction
  • Multiverse theory
All of which are ploys to extend the life of the franchise.
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+ Kaboom Jun 2 2014, 02:16 AM Post #14
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Jun 2 2014, 01:54 AM
The problem is that a lot of planets are absolutely worthless. You mentioned how there were billions of planets, right? How many of them actually have anything worth while on them?

That's the thing, Freeza would only go for good planets. Besides, Freeza sells the planets, it's not like he owns them
This is the most likely answer to the original question, I think. Freeza's a planet broker; he's going for quality, not quantity. He's only going to conquer planets that are worth obtaining and reselling, but most planets out there are probably gas giants or lifeless rocks, and not even all the ones that do support life are necessarily special enough in any way to bother going after.
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* Ketchup Revenge Jun 2 2014, 03:21 AM Post #15
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Jun 2 2014, 02:01 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 01:55 AM
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Jun 2 2014, 01:49 AM
Vertical
Jun 2 2014, 01:48 AM
Considering the DB Universe is VASTLY smaller than our own... several hundred planets could, and is very likely to be, a huge chunk of a galaxy.

...but really, SEG... "I think"... get outta here.
Is there really proof behind this though?
Besides the map? There's only 4 galaxies :x
What's your take on this new BoG stuff surrounding the 12 universes? I don't consider it canon myself.
I consider it as "canon" as any other post-original-manga-run production.

The concept/ideals were placed in Toriyama's lap and he did what he could with them... but at the end of the day, he still had to present:
  • SSJ God
  • God of Destruction
  • Multiverse theory
All of which are ploys to extend the life of the franchise.
To be completely honest, if you actually follow the multiverse theory in real life, Toriyama already did touch on this when he introduced Trunks and his alternate set of events.
The real life multiverse theory is the theory that every set of possibilities has occurred and that the same people exist as different versions in different universes.
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